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A great conversation. >> martha: about what? >> we talked about health care. we talked about the way forward on health care. we talked about the budget. he has been great in the military. we talked about the military. he has been a godsend as far as i'm concerned for the men and women in uniform. he wants to rebuild the militar military. they are trying to pass a health care bill that is better than obamacare. >> martha: do you think that it's going to happen? >> i don't know. i said, mr. president, you are the president of everyone. if you think that the republican bill will not get us to whe...

Necessarily at defeat yet. this reminds me as the debate over obamacare on the democratic side. democrats had a majority, they knew they were going to have to pass it without a single republican vote. and they pushed through a plan that a lot of democrats are unhappy about for one reason or another because the alternative of not acting was so much worse. i think that's the argument we're going to hear republicans make as this moved forward. i mean, maybe they'll get one that squeaksly the house and has to be adjusted in a big way to get through the senate. walking away from this, that would be...

May leave. >> bill: why did the others bail? why did the four bail in south carolina that were operating inle 2014? >> because the mandates required them to cover people and they couldn't collect enough money. they weren't making money, they weren't -- to president trump, don't take a bad idea. -- bad deal. you are a great negotiator. if you can find a better way, using republicans alone to replace obamacare, do it. but if you can't find a bill that you think helps america, not just the republican party, walk away, mr. president, let it collapse, and will. then, challenge the democratic party ...

>> he doesn't want to own this. and he said if this phase, he will let it play itself out so that democrats can own it. >> that's one of the most surprising things i've heard from an american flepresident i long, long time of the he cannot let it collapse without replacing with it something. you have 20 million people who are cast into uncertainty. your responsibility is to the people. not to the politics. what they have to do, they're trying to get this passed in a political way without having a deliberative conversation with the american people about, here's what we're proposing. here's what...

Plan, 116% increase. it'll be worse this year than last year. it will explode in 2017. if you really want to do something, just let it explode. and then they will come begging us to fix it. okay? begging. but that's not the right thing for the public because we have to get it fixed. but obamacare does not work. it doesn't work. >> ed: that was president trump talking to our own sean hannity that you will see right after this show, in full. is there an alternative stratega on obamacare? instead of replacing and repealing, maybe they will letn it collapse and then build a new one atop its wrecka...