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You know, this notion that trump, the way he was tweeting, the way he was behaving, knowing that pence had been whisked to safety, just what we could see from the outside, on january 7th, trump willing to throw pence to the lions, you guys have now reported this out. it turns out, trump was saying things that validated those darkest kind of perceptions behind the scenes to mark meadows, according to your reporting and this sets up the notion that mark short, a very smart guy, sort of saw it coming, saw the writing on the wall. i mean, you think about what a darkly pathological place the white ...

Screen alive, not to go dark. >> reporter: the challenge now is keeping it from going dark. christiane amanpour, cnn, kabul, afghanistan. the founder and executive director of a nonprofit organization for gills education in afghanistan called learn. good to see you, and thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> so, this edict for women anchors on the tv news to cover their faces, it is shocking, but at the same time, it's hardly surprising. >> oh, yeah, definitely. it's not surprising, i was just watching the video, the way the girl was dressing, i was like -- we all saw it...

Probably the greatest surprise that russia did not shut down the internet in ukraine, that there's still videos getting out, that they've not launched a more massive cyber attack against whether it be america or the west. but the notion that they don't have... is it coming, in your view? i've been remarkably surprised that we've not seen it to date. and i think we should assume that at some point there will be a more massive russian cyber effort, whether it's directed against ukraine, whether it's directed against eastern europe, whether it's directed against the uk or america. but i think we ...

The internet in ukraine, that there's still videos getting out, that they've not launched a more massive cyber attack against whether it be america or the west. but the notion that they don't have... is it coming, in your view? i've been remarkably surprised that we've not seen it to date. and i think we should assume that at some point there will be a more massive russian cyber effort, whether it's directed against ukraine, whether it's directed against eastern europe, whether it's directed against the uk or america. but i think we have to keep what's called, in a sense, shields up for the fo...

That there's still videos getting out, that they've not launched a more massive cyber attack against whether it be america or the west. but the notion that they don't have... is it coming, in your view? i've been remarkably surprised that we've not seen it to date. and i think we should assume that at some point there will be a more massive russian cyber effort, whether it's directed against ukraine, whether it's directed against eastern europe, whether it's directed against the uk or america. but i think we have to keep what's called, in a sense, shields up for the foreseeable future. if it c...