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Vice president biden? >> you know, we can do this without charging people -- raising 30, $40 trillion. the fact is that right now the vast majority of democrats do not support medicare for all. it couldn't pass the united states senate right now with democrats. it couldn't pass the house. nancy pelosi is one of those people who doesn't think it makes sense. we should build on obamacare, provide the plan i put forward to everyone in here, adding a medicare option in that plan and not make people choose. allow people to choose i should say. if you go to my two friends on my right and my left, yo...

Asylum. but are they going to have the support and funding and survive their scandals as their finances go through this deep dive? >> the momentum faded after parkland, which was a terrible shooting that really was followed by a lot of mass demonstrations and protest. the issue is will it again now? >> it couldn't pass after sandy hook, first graders killed in their classrooms. we'll see they pick up this issue when they return from the august recess. coming up next, the secret surge of migrants being held in the deep south. morgan radford has some exclusive reporting on what's happening at ...

Denied medical care. let's have an honest debate. let's have an honest debate about whether it matters to this country whether we're $22 trillion in debt and whether or not when we have new spending programs no matter how charitable, no matter how needed, when we have new spending programs whether or not we'll pay for them by reducing spending in waste fful programs >> reporter: that was part of the problem five years ago as well when the congress passed just a five-year extension of this bill it came down to money. it couldn't pass. fast forward to now, the public pressure that was put on law...

Replace. >> or even more confidence. gary kohn came out yesterday saying we think we have the votes. they do not have the votes. if there was a vote, there would be a vote scheduled, and we would have a countdown screen. >> david gergen, you were mid thought. >> i think you have an irreconcilable split. you started out with the bill that was answered, they said 24 million americans would not have health insurance ten years from now. that same bill has -- and it couldn't pass with that. so they had to have more conservative language and provisions, and that brought us into undercutting essentia...

In congress. will anything get done? will any law get passed? any new idea come forth? >> it hasn't so far quite frankly. the president pushed on this issue and hasn't got traction at all on capitol hill. not easy to see how they'll come up with a compromise that satisfies everybody at least to some extent. >> carol, if i can add there, the cap and trade legislation actually passed the house and eight house republicans voted for it and then they got primary challenges. it couldn't pass the senate. back in 2009, harry reid said he thought it would be easier to get the healthcare law passed than...