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And there have been some ads taken out, but, you know, all the debate opponents who have raised this matter have done it very inartfully. when you see bret baier do it or when maybe newt gingrich will do it, these are very tight corners from which mitt romney will have a hard time escaping. we know. we've talked about this. newt gingrich has as many flip-flops and gyrations as mitt does so he's a poor person to make this case, but i think the obama people are just laying in wait. i mean, mitt romney, it all goes to the overall narrative that there's not a lot inside mitt romney, and he in that...

The debate about his flip-flops, and there have been some ads taken out, but, you know, all the debate opponents who have raised this matter have done it very inartfully. when you see bret baier do it or when maybe newt gingrich will do it, these are very tight corners from which mitt romney will have a hard time escaping. we know. we've talked about this. newt gingrich has as many flip-flops and gyrations as mitt does so he's a poor person to make this case, but i think the obama people are just laying in wait. i mean, mitt romney, it all goes to the overall narrative that there's not a lot i...

Republicans to shut down the government and they would make him look like they didn't know what they were doing and disaster on them because they are the party in power. here he was yesterday complete with maps and pictures. >> the dems have been trying to claim victory on this, which i think is a very strange way to look at a bipartisan discussion. if you are in a bipartisan meeting, i think it's very unusual for one group to walk out and start spiking the football and say we won we killed the other guys. it doesn't bode well for future discussions. they wanted a shutdown. they were desperate...