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Their lives. i think he's in a very good position coming out on this budget conversation, bring a budget forward -- >> because he put his cards on the table. >> he looks perfectly reasonable. in the immigration debate, the president is looking reasonable. >> he's leading from behind. >> he's leading from behind only because he wants the senate to act first. but he will lead on this if that's what it takes. >> let me ask you the last question to you then i'll go to john. people tell me, i mean, i know this, this is what i think about all the time. they hate him so much on the republican right t...

They are not giving you amnesty. if you come forward, we will allow you to stay here while this takes its course. add that on to the retracting of the self-petitioning. you are making latinas or all immigrant women in extremely vulnerable positions. >> there's a coalition i can see beginning to emerge here. for native american women, greg hoffman, my colleague at the nation wrote this. if the final bill isn't approved, native american groups who pushed for this for ten years and worked on this reauthorization for three years will be forced to start over from scratch. is that right? this is the...

Union. on the other side, you have people who say under no circumstances should these people be granted anything that has to do with the possibility of coming out from under the shadows and living a life where they've already been here. they're not going anywhere. they can't self-deport. >> thank you for -- the self- -- i feel like the self-deportation argument has maybe been effectively neutralized by romney's candidacy. frankly, politico is writing political -- a conservative gop lawmaker who insisted on anonymity as so many gop lawmakers do. they are afraid hispanics hate republicans so, th...

For 11 hours of the government. this is not exactly a grand idea. this man is out of ideas. he's out of excuses. in 2012, we are going to make sure he gets put out of office. >> the house is expected to vote on a bill by majority leader eric cantor to give businesses with less than 500 employees a 20% tax cut. like the bill, it has little chance of passing both chambers. what are they doing? is it symbolic to take it as a flag to hold up down the campaign trail? >> it's symbolism. the president knew the buffett rule wasn't going to create a job. >> it was going to point out something about rep...

Raise taxes if you make a million or more, lumped together as the president's tax the rich proposal, otherwise known as the buffet rule. now, if both of these proposals went through congress, and that's highly unlikely, if they did, they would raise a maximum $700 billion over ten years. that is an absolute maximum. very few people table would really bring in that kind of money. but if it did, $70 billion a year that would barely make a dent in the trillion dollars per year decifit which we're looking at in the next few years. so in my opinion, it is very much a political proposal, not a serio...