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About getting the memo out, they would be serious about redacting information and, in his words, getting it over to the white house. we don't know if what he says is is true, that democrats are not working on redacting, et cetera, so will the dems' memo, in your view, ever get released? >> i don't know, but the important thing is the memo released in the first place is frankly the most shocking act a member of congress has taken since i've been here. he put that memo out to try to intentionally mislead people what was going on in the investigation, in an effort to protect president trump and b...

Recollection, i do not know carter page. to the best of my knowledge, carter page never had a donald trump.com e-mail address, had no formal role in the campaign that i'm aware of. >> i don't think i've spoken to him. i don't think i've met him. >> carter page did lead the trump campaign in 2016. carter page issued a statement on friday saying the fisa warrant on him was an unprecedented abuse. page has testified before the house intelligence committee. that was in november. he said then that he alerted several campaign officials about his july 2016 trip to russia when he was working with the ...

It doesn't vindicate him. >> after he watches a bit of fox tv, donald trump called the representative devin nunes, quote, a man of tremendous courage and grit, may someday be recognized as a great american hero. he also went after the top democrat in the house committee, little adam schiff is one of the biggest liars and leakers in washington. what do you think of the president's attack on adam schiff and his praise for devin nunes. it's something we've seen of the president over and over and over again. anyone who disagrees with him or criticizes him or subjects him to scrutiny ends up with a...

Word is dead. this is an american disgrace. does this totally vindicate him? >> no, i don't think it does at all. but i think the tweet shows the purpose of the memo. i think the memo is an attempt to vindicate him. trey gowdy said it doesn't vindicate him. it is pathetic that he would actually do that. it actually exposes my republican colleagues for what they were really up to, which is doing his bidding. and that's the part that frankly confuses me as to why they would put their reputations on the line for something so obvious. >> absolutely right trey gowdy said this does not totally vindi...

Transparency. a difficult walk to see how the president would argue that the democratic memo couldn't be released given that if it were voted at conference. having said that, chris, anything is possible and, again, as you see certainly it comes against this very fraught backdrop. one more important point, a number of republicans countering the president. the president said the republican memo vindicates him in the russia probe. trey gowdy and other republicans say that's not the case. it doesn't vindicate him. has very little to do with the russia investigation. >> in fact, i know that we have...