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Operations command and certain the national command authority within the jcs and dod, they've said, president trump, let's not be too hasty. we've been down this road before and have seen the consequences. >> it's very cos confusing on a policy matter when a president says we do everything we can to fight radical islam, everybody should use that term, we'll fight isis to the death and never stop. yet he becomes this isolationist, we have to retreat from the world. isn't it fair to say we cannot allow states to fail and become a security vacuum. here, the vacuum we know is even worse than isis ...

Can i say a word about the independent counsel? >> martha: go ahead. >> i just wanted to say that with great reluctance, i agree with trey gowdy, we probably need for the reasons that he is so well citing a second special counsel, but if you want in one sentence to understand what is wrong with washington, it is trey gowdy leaving, that is what is wrong. because he is fed up with it. and i know you have -- esteem him as much as i do. this is one of the shining lights of our time and i wish he could be talked out of it. >> martha: he definitely tries to be someone who plays it fair. obviously h...

And trump's attorney michael cohen's attempts to silence her with a restraining order. and vladimir putin shares his thoughts on the president and our political system. "the 11th hour" on a wednesday night begins now. good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 412 of the trump administration. and just to keep it fair, there is breaking news tonight from both "the new york times" and "the washington post" in this russia investigation. "times" journalist michael schmidt and maggie haberman report president trump spoke to witnesses about their conversations wit...

Witnesses about their conversations with mueller. the reporter who broke that story standing by. plus from "the washington post," mueller gathering evidence that a 2017 meeting was an effort to establish a back channel to the kremlin. plus from "the washington post," mueller gathering evidence that a 2017 meeting was an effort to establish a back channel to the kremlin. also tonight, new reporting on stormy daniels' lawsuit against the president. and trump's attorney michael cohen's attempts to silence her with a restraining order. and vladimir putin shares his thoughts on the presiden...

Effort in the house of representatives to break this stalemate. it's a very long shot. >> is the hold up for the white house or for the president funding for the wall. it's the build the wall. give him the dough for the wall and he'll say yes. >> yes. i think there's been schumer talked about it before the shutdown and even louis talked about it. they were willing if there could be something in run to fund the wall. it's just what it is that the president is willing to give on. the four principles he talked about including the pathway to citizenship for daca recipients. >> i understand that de...