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Voice recorder and the cockpit recorder? >> you know, it's hard to say, depending on how good the data is, and there are lots of other things that are done by the safety board other than just the recorders. they'll be wanting to get witnesses to the accident and interview them. they'll be looking obviously at the wreckage of the plane, what happened to the landing gear, where did to it come off, where does an engine come off, which direction does it go, how did the fire start, et cetera. so, there's so much to be done that you're not going to have good information on exactly what happened here...

I have the control over it. and now somebody's telling me that i need to get rid of this and i need to let go. it becomes an issue more of control than perhaps emotional attachment. >> i think it's just the issue of letting it go. i think she feels that when she lets it go, she loses a little bit of control over the item. she doesn't realize the control she has to let it go is much greater. >> for years, the hoarding strains jessica's relationship with her mother, but more recently, the two commit to tackling the problem together without professional help. >> it was you have an issue and you n...

>> all right, jonathan. thank you so much for staying on it it go to trace gallagher who is on our west coast. used to be on the east coast. has taken this commuter line. my question for you, trace, now that we are looking at this. what is the situation would be for getting people out of that area. are their parking lots where they can stage so on and so forth to get people away from the scene. >> tracks are hot. you have to be very careful about approaching these things. they will try shut down the electricity as much as they can. in some of these areas there is no way to walk on and off the ...

If i have to say so, my greatest fear is they may not catch them. we had the ted kaczynski example. it took many years to catch him. why are you so confident? >> they are great terrorists but not generally good criminals and there's so much evidence here. know they will swab all the parts that remain of the bomb. that will tell you what the substance is. it may be pitric acid, is may be a lot of different things. probably the key will be the film, all the digital imagery we have, that will solve the case. i can almost guarantee you that. >> how do you suspect it was detonated? do you think it ...

This and that seems to be the biggest problem we've had with finding help. >> but without immediate answers, the hoarding can'ts. >> part of it and the feeling you fight against is the idea that, okay, this is mine, i bought this, i have the control over it and now somebody is telling me that i need to get rid of this and i need to let go. so it becomes an issue more of control than perhaps emotional attachment. >> i think it's just the issue of letting it go. i think she feels that when he lets it go she loses a little bit of control over the item. she doesn't realize the control she has to l...