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Hardball. the republicans would say they're dragging their heels or even obstructs. we know what's coming down the rails here, right? the white house has been preparing for months for the investigations that they're expecting. republicans, of course, have been doing the same and making those requests. but the white house is in effect, batting away, saying, come back to us when you have the gavel. and so no doubt they will. the question becomes, how quickly does white house cooperate with it. and where do those? i think the gravitational pull has shifted a little bit in the republican party and...

Going to try to stonewall until he's forced by the courts to produce information. of course, the strategy that president trump might be employing here is to delay, delay, delay, and if he can delay long enough to get past the election, he may consider that a victory. >> congresswoman, i want to get back to something you said. you said democrats really need to play hardball here. is it hardball or is it a completely different game? because republicans now have a counterattack, an offensive where they're saying, let's bring rudy giuliani to testify before the senate judiciary committee, and let'...

The self-hatred. everything else involved, i was enthralled. after a while i was so miserable. i would rather listen to's 60s music, turn on my favorite station, listen to the '60s because i'm tired of feeling miserable. is it true that people are really down and out, who are really miserable and angry do want to hear somebody that's miserable? that misery loves company. that's why they listen to mark levin, and savage and those guys, because they are down and out? they love a miserable character to share time with. is that what's going on here? >> savage is a miserable character. what's irres...

Is that what's going on here? >> savage is a miserable character. what's irresponsible what he does he points out particular ethnic groups and immigrants and frames everything as if it's a ward. your show, you don't call it a war, you call it hardball. >> it's a sport sometimes because it is. >> that's right, it's a support. one of the things from your experience and i think this is important, and the people read your book like i did, you served as a cop at the capitol and you knew about respect for the institution and processes of democracy and one of the things that i think is so loathsome a...

Would trash them as victims. people with the wrong ethnic background he would trash them. even his own ethnic background. the self-hatred. i was enthralled. after a while i was so miserable. i rather listen to '60s music. turn on my favorite station, listen to the '60s because i'm tired of feeling miserable. are people down and out and miserable and angry do want to hear somebody that's miserable. that misery loves company. that's why they listen to mark levin and those guys because they are down and out? is that what's going on here? >> savage is a miserable character. what's irresponsible wh...