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Evidence. the question to you is what trial testimony and/or evidence did you use to incorporate into your animation? >> for the initial contact, it was jennifer lauer's statement. >> according to what you understand her statement to be, you believe that she saw that occur? >> she didn't see it occur. she heard it occur. that was the point. >> you are, however, depicting it visually, right? >> correct. >> okay. she certainly didn't testify that she could depict it visually, right? >> she just pinpointed the initial contact point, where it started. >> she pinpointed it? >> at the t intersection...

Condo or town home just at the intersection of the t intersection and the sidewalk, would you know what i was talking about? >> yes. >> and to fast forward a moment this was an area where you had testified in deposition that you had conversations with police. so i am just trying to locate if we were to presume that the town home was the first one in that row of houses, where was the truck parked in reference to that? >> if she was in the first one then the truck would have been parked looking towards the east it would have been slightly south of where her condo would be. >> if you were to walk...

Indicate what my client now has before you and before the jury. which is that he was at the t-intersection when he was attacked -- approached and then attacked by trayvon martin. there's no evidence to contra indicate that. and that he was hit in the face. there's no evidence to contra indicate that. what we all know now it did to his nose. that violent act in and of itself, i would suggest to you, is sufficient for immediate response with great -- with deadly force. but he didn't. what we have is 40 seconds of somebody screaming. of course, you know, my client through his statement said it wa...

Contraindicate what my client now has before you and before the jury, which is that he was at the t intersection when he was attack -- approached and then attacked by trayvon so there's no evidence to contraindicate that. and he was hit in the face. and there's no evidence to contraindicate that. and what it did to his nose. that violent act in and of itself i would suggest to you is sufficient for immediate response with great -- with deadly force. but he didn't. what we have is 40 seconds of somebody screaming. of course you know my client through his statements that it was him screaming. an...

Just like i said before, except for what you're showing with your flashlight everything else was dark? >> right. >> were you -- do you know where you were standing at that point? >> on the sidewalk. >> where you had encountered mr. zimmerman? >> yes. >> basically in the same spot? >> yes. >> from your vantage point where you had taken this picture generally you sort of turned and took the pictures that we've shown here? >> yes. >> you were up near the t intersection? >> yes.