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Rehabilitating people that are being so severely damaged, it's an epidemic proportion in our country. the way they look at drugs and by people. >> kimberly: to agree with the approach of not criminalizing and trying to work towards rehabilitation? >> juan: yeah. i would agree with that. >> kimberly: you think that's a better approach? you applaud what they are doing? >> juan: of course. i think it's important to rehabilitate. >> kimberly: do you like my cross-examination? >> jesse: case closed. greg gutfeld. >> greg: i see this as another example of identity politics that's full on ideology an...

Because you're forcing them to buy a plan. they're going to say we will give you a choice and cheaper plans you can choose from and we aren't going to slap a tax on you so you have to buy a plan to cover stuff you don't need. that's an argument to me. they did make that argument and now look what they have. they have nothing. >> kimberly: that's a problem. >> greg: dana, the point of the monologue -- is there a third way? a lot of republican intellectuals out there are thinking about this stuff. i always bring up scott adams. he brings up innovative ways with dealing with this stuff. one is ac...

Against him. they have been trying to get some monetary compensation back but it has proved to be elusive. public policy, in terms of -- the law supports this, with retirement and pensions that protect the holder of those pensions from having someone sees them as part of their asset for portfolio. it's frustrating when you think about the victims and the families, really so horribly and emotionally damaged and then not have any kind of financial compensation. for example, he still popular. apparently a model prisoner. the celebrity inmate. there will be another iteration for oj to be able to m...

Politicians don't have the good ideas. >> jesse: they don't. a >> dana: thing is, it's extremely easy to give money awy and a program away and almost impossible to pull it back. that's what you have in these states. we do have a problem, there are many low income people in the country that worry every day when they wake up that if they get ill or hurt on the job, they are basically going to go bankrupt and their kids will forgo college. clearly these members of congress have listened. and they are three women. they are listening to their constituents and responding to that. more communication ...

We don't care. right now, we as a public -- we put fame before everything. we consider pass judgment but w when he is out on the street at a bar, everyone is going to want to be there. >> kimberly: and full respect to some of the other charges, there's only one surviving living victim of the robbery attempt. again, he is up for the parole hearing for the robbery. not for the murder. >> greg: he was surprising people in the skies. hey, you are the double murderer. that was the whole point. >> jesse: that was rock-bottom. >> kimberly: more rock-bottom on "the five".