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Before that and 9/11 gave it justification and a federalization and in effect the tanks moving in from washington that you could have if places like we saw in st. louis and ferguson places that there is absolutely no call for that kind of equipment. >> but at the end of the day, the see something and say something turns out to matter more. >> absolutely. and it always has. and that is what cops on the beat always knew. my father was a cop who walked a beat in boston and new the names of -- knew the names of people. and that was value. and bratton is trying to increase that starting this year i...

Loss. but also should point out we just had a visit from chuck hagel, new secretary of defense to kabul, his first meeting with hamid karzai and during that hamid karzai made strange comments in which he suggested the americans and the taliban were somehow working together, somehow colluding to continue violence in the country, to give it justification for u.s. troops to stay there. that's been immediately knocked back by nato, and the white house today. but it show house tense this relationship is now, brooke, allegations like that could be made. >> whole other layer of murkiness because of t...

Libor is libor. can you imagine if all the rates --. >>neil: but they have to collude together, and you have to prove that. >>guest: there are two things. can you not get away by colluding by yourself they are talking about when you sigh the documents we know that bank x is here and we know their borrowing costs are too high so we will bring ours down. it is pretty bad stuff. and the fed knew and geithner knew. >>neil: i'm not trying to give it justification but you could use the argument at the time that if the libor rates more accurately reflected the panic at the time among banks, and they ...

Get information look at it another reason to use as it justification to surveil americans. ainsley: let me break this down for you. what they are wondering hillary clinton gives money to this law firm. the law firm then hires fusion gps. fusion gps then hires this spy christopher steele. evidence goes over to russia and does some sort of a deal and pays russia for this dirty dossier did. that lead to spying on or surveilling president trump while he was running against hillary clinton and does that go back to hillary clinton? this is crazy. this is crazy and that walls the question. listen to ...