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The truth is that verdicts are rarely just about evidence or the law. they are about human judgment, and both of the attorneys have to sit there and say, here is my juror. i've got a nursing assistant with eight kids. i've got a safety officer. i've got a woman whose husband is a space attorney who used to carry a conceal and carry weapon but let it lapse. these are the people that we have to talk to. this is the judgement that has to be made. it's what they think of it. it's likely that their judgement is made and their views may have even been formed before this case started. >> and let me a...

What do you think their thinking will be over the next couple of days? >> well, the truth is that verdicts are rarely just about evidence or the law. they're about human judgment. and both of the attorneys have to sit there and say here is my juror, i've got a nursing assistant with eight kids, i've got a safety officer, i've got a woman whose husband is a space attorney who used to carry a conceal and carry weapon but let it lapse. these are the people that we have to talk to, this is the judgment that has to be made. it's what they think of it. it's likely that their judgment has already bee...

Upon all of the life experiences and background of the six of the jurors that ultimately have been chosen. what is so fascinating to me is that you do have a woman on this panel who used to have a cwp, a concealed weapons permit but she let it lapse which indicates maybe she got involved because her husband wanted her to get involved but she didn't want to carry around a gun. we know there will be issues about guns, about self-defense and i think from the perspective of what both sides are looking for, the defense could have been looking at women in such a way that they probably and the resear...

This is a very fair panel based upon all of the life experiences and background of the six of the jurors that ultimately have been chosen. what is so fascinating to me is that you do have a woman on this panel who used to have a cwp, a concealed weapons permit but she let it lapse which indicates maybe she got involved because her husband wanted her to get involved but she didn't want to carry around a gun. we know there will be issues about guns, about self-defense and i think from the perspective of what both sides are looking for, the defense could have been looking at women in such a way t...

And i don't think he wants to let it lapse. i can't wait to come to new york for women of the world, tina. >> thanks, andrea, for doing that. >> joey e-mails me. >> it was actually me! >> the one day i watch "morning joe" i get hammered twice in an hour. i am just going to turn on portlandy. i think that might be safe. by the way, we watched -- >> he is not mad. >> no, he's not mad. he just liked portlandy better than us. >> fine. >> tonight. >> 8:00 p.m., it starts. you're going to have blood, sweat, and tiers and "up with people" in your first all in, right? >> we are going to get you bike. ...