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Marasse and the complicit of parts of pakistan our soldiers are caught right in the middle this of at a time when they are trying to bring peace to the region. i think it is an argument of moving us to the day when our american soldiers come home. a terrible theater we been unable to find a clear path to reducing terrorism. we have to leave it to afghan forces to meet the challenge and bring american forces home. >> go back to the debt and start with the items that run out at the end of this year, not 2012. let's take a look at them. this is unless they are extended. first the payroll tax cut....

Decide if he or she believes a deal sl imminent not to adjust withholding tables. very important. >> i'm talking about no deal and we go off the cliff. >> we go off and stay off. >> it's $400 billion. we have a lot of things to do with regard to our debt ceiling, and my feeling is no one really believes the united states of america is going to default on its debt even if it lapses. we're dealing with different things. one is real and substantive and the other is psychological. >> i really disagree. >> i know you do. >> we could have a good discussion about this if we had more time. the idea th...