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Freight if the goal is to somehow stop the flow or find out what's going on, she's not meeting with the people making the journey to find out why the left in the first place for it. >> she says there's been progress, but there hasn't been progress, don't disagree, i don't have the effort today. there is just no progress. why would she lie like that? >> i wouldn't call it lying, bu in that spirit i think we just have an adult conversation abou what goes on at the border unde every administration. everyone has this problem. i'm not saying the numbers aren't spiking right now, i heard the little ...

Freight if the goal is to somehow stop the flow or find out what's going on, she's not meeting with the people making the journey to find out why the left in the first place for it. >> she says there's been progress, but there hasn't been progress, don't disagree, i don't have the effort today. there is just no progress. why would she lie like that? >> i wouldn't call it lying, bu in that spirit i think we just have an adult conversation abou what goes on at the border unde every administration. everyone has this problem. i'm not saying the numbers aren't spiking right now, i heard the little ...

Story you just heard and the rape in wrongville we have been covering all week it is maybe, just maybe time for us to overhaul approach to immigration. that's the question. joining us is cyrus. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me me on this show. >> tucker: some of my favorite people actually are immigrants. by the same token no honest person denies that some people come to this country for the wrong reasons and do horrible things when they're here. isn't it lying to pretend that all immigrants are more impressive than native born americans, which is the claim? >> you know, tuc...

I will send you a donation. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: light of the story you heard and the rape and rocco thate, we're covering all week,t might be -- we join now by new york immigration attorney cyrus made >> thank you for having me on the show. >> tucker: no honest person would describe immigrants -- some of my favorite people are immigrants. no person denies that some people comes to the country for the wrong reasons, and do horrible things when they are here. isn't it lying to pretend all immigrants are more impressive than nativeborn americans which is the claim? >> crime is commit...

Brotherhood isn't taking it lying. >> for more than 80 years the muslim brotherhood struggled under regimes, members pursued, persecuted and imprisoned. for one year a taste of power and they've lost. but they're not about to go quietly into the night. both sides digging in, there seems little room for compromise. >> either heaven or to die here. >> reporter: for one morsi supporter the choice is stark. either democracy or taliban, he says. the message, either the ballot box or the bullet. ben wedeman, cnn, cairo. i'm john king in washington.