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But carol, that notwithstanding and that's rhetoric and i get that tensions flame high and the prosecutor wants conviction and the defense attorney wants an acquittal. ultimately the judge had a number of a lot of factual information to base the decision upon. let's start understanding that this was a bench trial. what that means is there's no jury and a judge acts as the finder of fact and puts himself in a position of a jury. it's also important to understand that based upon the judge's findings a different judge certainly could have had other findings and made a different decision. certainl...

The officer -- substantially bodily harm by the way not just an imminent threat of a tussle as you point out. where is the proof that they are. >> this was a hideous act. let's be clear. we are on the same page. >> he was concerned for his life. >> as a cop you do not have to prove self-defense. >> sure you do. threat of bodily harm. >> manslaughter requires that there was not a premed occasion to commit murder, but, yet you took the life anyway. you took the life in the heat of the moment with the legal provocation. that makes it manslaughter. it is not murder. furthermore, if they insist on ...

Tussle as you point out. where is the proof that they are. >> this was a hideous act. let's be clear. we are on the same page. >> he was concerned for his life. >> as a cop you do not have to prove self-defense. >> sure you do. threat of bodily harm. >> manslaughter requires that there was not a premed occasion to commit murder, but, yet you took the life anyway. you took the life in the heat of the moment with the legal provocation. that makes it manslaughter. it is not murder. furthermore, if they insist on charging murder, i guarantee you this cop will be acquitted because this. >> because ...

And you can imagine how shocked that such a hero could do such a thing. so, we know that he did kill her. the question is, was it premeditated as a murder or was it manslaughter. >> you spoke with reeva's agent and what did she tell you? >> she speaks about what an incredible person reeva was. she was so focused. remember she was only dating oscar since october. hadn't been a long romance and she wonders what the panic, what the fear, what was going on in her mind in those last minutes of her life. now, remember, she went to the bathroom with her cell phone which some people tell me is not unu...

>> okay. >> bill: you understand the difference between the left and the far left, right? >> sure. >> bill: in the democratic party you have the left. and then you have the far left. >> just like in the republican party the right and far right. >> bill: absolutely. i want to play you an example of the far left because i think the far left damages the liberal cause in the democratic party. general petraeus is teaching at the city city university of new york this semester. is he walking down the street to go to class and this happens. roll it manslaughter right here. [several shouting] >> you ar...