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Became it convicted felon and he did an interview with dr. phil, laura, and he said this part about what we were just talking about, what the congresswoman they're getting revenge on his political enemies. he said revenge takes time. i will say that in sometimes revenge can be justified. but as to be honest, you know, sometimes it can. i just this is recurring theme that we are now seeing. >> the political consequences of focusing exclusively on his own victimization. >> it may, may show up at the ballot box to come back to haunt him because he knows that this is something that he does by defa...

Ran into some hurdles. 0ur north american correspondent peter bowes spoke to me earlier, and explained what has been happening and why it is rather unusual. this is an unusual situation. everyone expected this to be a relatively straightforward court appearance, where this deal between prosecutors and the defense would be, to use the judge's own words, "rubber—stamped" in the court. and the judge said she wasn't able to do that. we expected hunter biden to, as you've just explained, to plead guilty to two tax charges that he didn't pay on time, his taxes in 2017 and 2018, but also to admit t...

He's cocky for a nineteen year old. >> can we talk for a moment. what's wrong with tommy tuberville. that is the kindest question i can ask after the republican senator down this week refusing to define white nationalists as racists. back it may, tuberville was asked about efforts to remove what nationalists from the u.

Ultimately. i know you were listening to the top of the show as we were talking about this new cnn reporting on investigators looking into a pool that was drained at mar-a-lago, and then flooded a room. it has the computer servers, that stored the surveillance footage, that we know prosecutors have subpoenaed. of course, still a lot of questions about that, but what was your reaction to hearing that? >> well, i think the prosecutors are right to be suspicious of trump and his capacity to obstruct justice. this particular episode frankly, struck me as a little rude goldberg-like. but not beyond...

That first primary debate stage in august. how do you see these rules reshaping the race? >> i think we can dismiss the last one as meaningless. -- if you don't win, that goes out the window. the rest of it is designed to do two things. one, be able to show that you have real support, especially with that small dollar donor number. 40, 000, that significant. the other is they want to avoid what they had in 2016, where they have the kids table debate, and then the adults table thanksgiving dinner debate. how that really stilted things for republicans, it certainly allowed donald trump to rise i...