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I do think the president given the choices he had made a smart choice in mulvaney to come in from the office of management and budget. on the face of it, he's the right person at the right time for the president. if the government is shutting down here in just a few days, as it looks apparent it may, you know, he have "l" have hwill ha experience. he is going to be there, i think, in the early days when the congress starts, democrats in the house start lining up investigations. he's worked in the house, been a member of the house, he has a lot of friends there. so you can look at this. he has ...

Questions about this. there's not a lot of ability to talk to folks around the president here in buenos aires. >> jackie, what about the rest of washington? do we have a read yet on how the democrats obviously from nancy pelosi, who may well be the speaker, jerry nadler, who will be the judiciary chairman in the house, mitch mcconnell, how they are all processing this, how they are reading these developments on the mueller front? has it changed the equation in terms of how the rest of washington is dealing with this? >> it's changed the equation to the extent it really ratcheted up the idea th...

One, the government has found a way to charge him for something publishing plus, maybe conspiring to violate hacking laws or acting as a foreign intelligence agent if these charges relate to the russian hacking or it's possible the trump administration just isn't worried about the precedent of charging someone for publishing only and not worried about the court challenge and potentially losing the case. these are all possibilities we're looking at right now. >> what do you think, frank? >> well, this is spot on discussion. boy, there was great debate over whether wikileaks was a journalistic e...

Set and the bad law that you don't want to make and also the fact that, you know, bringing charges that don't survive a court challenge doesn't do anything for the justice department. a couple possibilities here. one, the kbogovernment has foun way to charge him for something publishing plus, maybe conspiring to violate hacking laws or acting as a foreign intelligence agent if these charges relate to the russian hacking or it's possible the trump administration just isn't worried about the precedent of charging someone for publishing only and not worried about the court challenge and potential...

>> what do you think, frank? >> well, this is spot on discussion. boy, there was great debate over whether wikileaks was a journalistic entity or a foreign adversary. it appears that something has happened and that it may, may be linked to mueller. there's recent reporting, chris, as recent as this afternoon, we may be talking about a complaint as opposed to an indictment. what does that mean? complaints are done in a hurry. complaints are done when you've got information and you need to act on it quickly and you don't want to get to a grand jury or maybe don't have time. if that reporting is ...