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We couldn't do on broadcast television, and he was a great actor that made that come into our living rooms and seemingly with all of that that i just said, it was just so well-written, so well-produced and he was such a wonderful actor. >> the initial concerns were that it may -- it may glamorize the mob, the mafia but as james gandolfini said many times over the years, i remember seeing this in an interview, it had a reverse effect. they were depressed and unhappy with their lives. the very thing it wasn't was glom rous. >> there is no glamor. he was a bartender at one time in his own world, ...

>> the initial concerns were that it may -- it may glamorize the mob, the mafia but as james gandolfini said many times over the years, i remember seeing this in an interview, it had a reverse effect. they were depressed and unhappy with their lives. the very thing it wasn't was glamorous. >> there is no glamor. he was a bartender at one time in his own world, so some of the -- some of the aspects of the show were not that foreign from his, you know, his earlier background. yes, we were -- we were -- i was concerned that we weren't able to do shows like that and i was concerned that if we were...

Well-written, so well-produced and he was such a wonderful actor. >> the initial concerns were that it may -- it may glamorize the mob, the mafia but as james gandolfini said many times over the years, i remember seeing this in an interview, it had a reverse effect. they all were pretty depressed, all unhappy with their lives. the very thing it wasn't was glamorous. >> there's certainly no glamour. he was a bartender at one time in his own world, so some of the -- some of the aspects of the show were not that foreign from his, you know, his earlier background. yes, we were -- we were -- i was ...

Prayer in it. i said look, if you're doing this for political reasons, don't. but if you're doing it because you feel led to do it and you feel this is a part of your speech, then i want you to do it and i'll stand by you. he said good. good enough for me. that's all i needed to hear. >> we heard the reaction from the audience there, obviously very supportive. let me ask you, if it had been a muslim student who stood up and read a passage from the koran, say, would you have been as supportive, would the audience have been as supportive? >> well, i would have absolutely been as supportive. to m...

About any religion. >> it doesn't matter. >> but how do you think it would have played out? >> i don't think something like that would have had that kind of a reaction. but it may, because my son has been inundated with phone calls and well wishers, including messages from atheists who say you know what, don't agree with you, but good for you for standing up for what you believe in. >> this is all about the separation of church and state, obviously, but there's also a wider issue that religion is slowly going out of fashion in america. there are far less church goers today than there were 25 y...