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There is no metaverse as yet, that's the point. yeah, it — because it- needs these conferences like this to sit down, _ get it done, advances connectivity. it's not just about that. but the reason people care about these conferences is because of the smartphones, the main devices. not secondary things, you know? it's all about the smartphones. ok, you're like an old married couple. he's such a pessimist! i'm going to leave you to keep battling this out. you are such a pessimist! we've got the optimist and the pessimist here. osman and omar, thank you. hello and welcome to your weekly tech ne...

And i feel super guilty about this — is this button here. and i don't know why, but you can go boop! and they jump! that was a big jump! the buttons that make other humans jump should just not exist. osman and omar, ola! it sounds like some companies are breaking new ground there, so has the visit to the show been worth it? for me? no, it hasn't, because it's the same as every other mwc that i've been to — a new smartphone with a couple of improvements from the last one. see, that's absolutely not true! i've been trying to tell omar all along it's notjust- about these devices, _ it's about...

Much mounting evidence to the contrary of that. is the targets of that any civilians being killed more likely to draw the u.s. into possibly actual war with russia, boots on the ground in ukraine, helping? >> i don't see the u.s., nato or the west having boots on the ground. but i do see that we are reacting after the fact. so if russia is all in on war crimes and genocide, the west needs to be all in on giving ukraine everything it needs, not waiting until later and say, oh, wait, now that's genocide, you just talked about cutting off russian coal. let's cut off all of their energy exports. l...

Are breaking new ground there, so has the visit to the show been worth it? for me? no, it hasn't, because it's the same as every other mwc that i've been to. a new smartphone with a couple of improvements from the last one. see, that's absolutely not true! i've been trying to tell omar all along it's notjust- about these devices, _ it's about the wider ecosystem. we've seen the metaverse and the advancement - in connectivity needed. that conversation is happening. 56 low latency, things that are around the phone — - that's where the innovation will happen. _ but there's nothing to see. there...

Upgrade it needs, and so research has shown us that this can vary from a few hundred pounds for loft insulation, through to of the order of several thousand pounds in order to upgrade the heating system for example, to something that was an air source heat example, to something that was an airsource heat pump, example, to something that was an air source heat pump, which would be then electric heating instead of gas based heating, but certainly what we need to be looking at is ways in which we can support everybody, all households in improving the fabric of their homes so people can live using...