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Five guys do not represent a threat to the united states. do you believe either one of those statements? >> i would give it a different name. they have a plan. if you don't want to call it negotiation, somebody made a plan and a decision to make this transfer happen. i think there is a plan. >> in reality, didn't we negotiate the release? i mean, in other words, let's start parsing words and splitting hairs. this is a negotiation and they are telling us it's not. they are telling us there is no threat posed by what is described as the dream team of terrorists. double that? >> you and i both kn...

Five guys do not represent a threat to the united states. do you believe either one of those statements? >> i would give it a different name. they have a plan. if you don't want to call it negotiation, somebody made a plan and a decision to make this transfer happen. i think there is a plan. >> in reality, didn't we negotiate the release? i mean, in other words, let's start parsing words and splitting hairs. this is a negotiation and they are telling us it's not. they are telling us there is no threat posed by what is described as the dream team of terrorists. double that? >> you and i both kn...

Because i think barney and karen are both -- made good points. this is a -- i don't want to gloat. i want to make the point. this was not an accident. this is the logical extension of the ideology that has taken over the whole republican party. and the american people repudiated it. the american people said no, we don't want to shut the government down. we believe the government has an important role in our lives. we don't this kind of hostage-taking. they were not in favor of undoing the health care bill in this manner. and i think we need to press that point. and i don't have great hopes for...

This is a -- i don't want to gloat. i want to make the point. this was not an accident. this is the logical extension of the ideology that has taken over the whole republican party. and the american people repudiated it. the american people said no, we don't want to shut the government down. we believe the government has an important role in our lives. we don't this kind of hostage-taking. they were not in favor of undoing the health care bill in this manner. and i think we need to press that point. and i don't have great hopes for it negotiation. what i have great hopes for is the 2014 electi...

He's not alone. with breitbart news, rand paul said, i think it's untenable position to take to say he won't negotiation. to throw a temper tantrum and say i won't give up anything i want. what's he trying to present here? the notion of the president being a spoiled child that doesn't want to negotiate? the only thing they want to negotiate is how to dismember the child that this president created obama care, health care. we'll give you a tax increase and we want entitlement reform. the soviet union used to do that. that was an old game we all laughed at. here are the guys coming on who are an...