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The cbo does not know what might happen if the insurance companies are allowed to compete nationwide, which they cannot do now. will that drive premiums down? that is the hope on the trump side. but not on the left. >> this really has nothing to do with health care. with this has everything to do with as a massive shift of wealth from working people, and middle income people, to the very richest people of this country. it is a $275 billion tax break for the top 2%. >> bill: senator sanders is angry because the republican health care plan knocks out and obamacare payroll tax, 0.9%. and a tax on...

Act. and my understanding is -- >> even though it is not affordable? >> you can compare that to welfare. when you don't have money, welfare is there to help you. >> so, it is like health care welfare? >> yes. i like that. >> thank you for your cooperation. >> do you think obamacare is doing well? >> for myself, yes. there are conditions that i have that need to be covered. >> i think it is just something that should be affordable to everyone but by the end of the day, we have to pay a lot of money that they don't have. >> you are not allowed to say come at the end of the day. that is a band ph...

Premiums this year and the one may leave. >> bill: why did the others bail? why did the four bail and south carolina that were operating 2014? >> because the mandates required them to cover people and they couldn't collect enough money. they weren't making money, they weren't -- to president trump, don't take a bad idea. you are a great negotiator. if you can find a better way, using republicans alone to replace obamacare, do it. but if you can find a ball that you think helps america, not just the republican party, walkt collapse, and will. then, challenge the democratic party -- >> bill: you...

You would not have gone through the details of what the congressional budget office put out here. but it does not verify what you just said at all. if you make $30,000 a year, it shows the amount that you are going to pay out of pocket if you are out on the individual market is some $10,000 a year or more. >> bill: but that is before the health care deduction. the cbo, which by the way, wildly missed the obamacare predictions, they didn't even take into account what would happen if the pinheads in washington could ever pass the insurance companies competing. they didn't take that into account....

>> no one likes it when i do that. >> bill: you frighten those people out there. except for a couple of them. you are heading down to interview president trump. >> that is a possibility. >> bill: ask him if he likes obamacare. >> i will. [laughter] all >> bill: all right, watters, good luck with it. "the factor" tip of the day, hysteria. "the tip," moments away.