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Lots of back and forth on capitol hill today over the appropriate name for president obama's controversial health care bill. joining us in today's strategy session, cnn political contributor and democratic strategist donna brazile. also, the former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele. it's good to see you both. >> thank you. >> i want to play you a little bit of what went on on capitol hill today. this is about health care reform, but really it's all about what's in a name. let's take a listen to this. >> we call it what it is. it is obamacare. it's a travesty. it is ...

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Set accomplishment actually do him in? moments ago president trump held and event with republicans at the white house to spike the football and dance around the end zone, because they finally have a major congressionally approved achievement to sell to voters in 2018. >> it's the largest tax cut in the history of our country. records all over the place. we are making america great again. you haven't heard that. have you? >> we essentially repealed obamacare, because we got rid of the individual mandate which was terrible. >> but this wasn't just an event too fawn over the tax bill. republicans...

This tax legislation, is obamacare as we know it for all practical purposes dead? >> no, of course it is not. but obamacare -- forget obamacare, t obamacare. think of the american people. 13 million americans will lose their health insurance because of a repeal of the mandate. people get really excited "isn't that a great thing, wolf?" my god, 13 million more americans on top of the 28 million who have no health insurance are going to lose their health insurance. let's celebrate that. what kind of insanity is that? we are the only major country on earth not to guarantee health care to all peop...

The choice could be this or obamacare, are you willing to let the country be under obamacare if that is the choice? >> i don't think there is anybody in america who is more against obamacare than myself, i have seen the ravages of it. i just didn't run on obamacare, i didn't run on replacing apps programs. i didn't run on allowing the spiral to continue, just to subsidize taxpayer money. look, we are $500 billion in debt right now, there is no money to keep subsidizing insurance, there is no money to extend medicare, we are actually cutting taxes. so you have to be honest with people, it has t...