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Today, do you find it concerning that the president today -- that the president asked mr. lewandowsky to deliver a message to the attorney general? ms. hicks: concerning would not be the word i would use to describe how i view that. chairman nadler: well, in any way problematic? ms. hicks: i view it as odd. was it odd, or was it obstruction, john? >> what was odd was the way the question came about. nadler was weaving his way through a bunch of objections, and as soon as she responded with her answer that she found it odd, her lawyers objected to her explaining what she meant by odd. i think w...

Payments, don. >> interesting. john, hicks was asked about trump ordering the former campaign manager, corey lewandowski, to urge jeff sessions to un-recuse himself from the russia investigation. the transcript says, quote, chairman nadler, sitting here today, do you find it concerning that the president today -- that the president asked mr. lewandowsky to deliver a message to the attorney general? ms. hicks: concerning would not be the word i would use to describe how i view that. chairman nadler: well, in any way problematic? ms. hicks: i'd view it as odd. was it odd, or was it obstruction, ...

Situations that ordinary people just would not. >> now, i'm going to ask you about this because i've also talked to some legal minds who say they felt it was in their view punitive that he was going to be sent to rikers island. they thought this was an odd play. they also thought this was an odd place for him to go, that this might be prosecutors trying to send a message. i also spoke to a former corrections officer from rikers and here's what he told me about the possibility of manafort serving time there in solitary confinement. >> it's very unusual. in a million years i would never imagine ...

What did you make of that? >> i think it's a little late for that. first of all, that is categorized as propaganda. i don't think they had expectations people would quit coming to america. what do you do about the chinese statements here in the universities and all here going to school, learning to be nuclear engineers and other types of high tech skills. so i think it's a little late for that. >> neil: do you find it odd that the chinese do not want to discuss or appreciate or are discussing the militarization of all of these islands in the south china sea, which of them are not theirs but th...

I'm glad that the attorney general has said that in his view, as a legal matter, there was no treason. of course, under the law, the president can overrule the attorney general, but subordinate officials cannot. and i do find it odd, i have to say, given all the criticism we took in connection with the hillary clinton matter wabout te attorney general commenting on what he thinks about our conduct, notwithstanding the fact that he's determined that there was nothing unlawful here. so it's kind of along the lines of what we were accused so vehemently of doing wrong with respect to hillary clint...