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They have a position on this. that it will not be labeled as the party of no. listen to what john boehner said. >> that's why doing immigration reform in a common-sense, step by step manner helps or members understand the bite-sized pieces, that helps our constituents build more confidence that what we are doing makes sense. >> reporter: what we do know is what they won't accept, alex. that's the senate bill. they won't accept anything to do with amnesty. and they want the border to be secure. at this point it's still until clear what constitutes border security for house republicans. the joke...

Last night and he tried to make a joke but the joke was, i'm for cutting down on this stuff but i don't want to ban cheese-its because they're my guilty pleasure. isn't that the point? everybody has a guilty pleasure. whether it is sewed, a cheese-its, this doughnut thing that i got in my has not here. everybody has their guilty pleasure. isn't it overkill? if you want to put the information out there, that's one thing. if you want to ban sodas, that's overkill, isn't it? >> i hear you on that. apply own guilty pleasure is the potato chip. i am unbelievably in love with potato chips. you have ...

Make speeches about it but find somebody very talented, give him a lot of power. you'd have to find out where you can cut. >> jack, don't we have those kind of people in place right now? >> but here's the problem, and with all due respect, cliff, what we've seen after 9/11 was this. we decided the fbi and cia couldn't connect the dots. so the response from everybody involved was let's create the department of homeland security, which was a debacle and a monumental level. we brought all these organizations together. they made such a huge disaster and made things almost unworkable. then you add ...

There is the real nancy pelosi. now, i think there is a little bit of a disconnect between that image and the other. is it okay for nancy pelosi to be air brushed in this picture or is it overkill? >> well, first of all, i don't think it was her decision. so if the magazine decided to air brush her, then the blame should go to the magazine and not on nancy pelosi. i mean, i think she looks fabulous when she is not air brushed. >> juan: i would agree. i don't see a problem with this. everyone is air brushed on the cover of a magazine in 2010. >> she is 70 years old. if you want to get some work...

There is the real nancy pelosi. now, i think there is a little bit of a disconnect between that image and the other. is it okay for nancy pelosi to be air brushed in this picture or is it overkill? >> well, first of all, i don't think it was her decision. so if the magazine decided to air brush her, then the blame should go to the magazine and not on nancy pelosi. i mean, i think she looks fabulous when she is not air brushed. >> juan: i would agree. i don't see a problem with this. everyone is air brushed on the cover of a magazine in 2010. >> she is 70 years old. if you want to get some work...