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Run. imagine -- if you are sitting at home right now, look at the room next to you because that's where his children were and that's where his confidants were. >> they were right there. again, anybody that ever saw the interaction between them during the campaign, after the campaign or, as you said, before the campaign when everybody worked at trump tower, they understood those children did exactly what they were told by their father as it pertained to business, as it pertained to politics, as it pertained to anything. the thought, steve rattner, that don jr. was going to go off on his own and...

With ukraine and russia. my colleague spoke today and said and we wanted that manafort was in contact with the president's lawyers and he told dana that in the days before, mueller's team believed he was lying on issues relating to the president as it pertained to the trump tower meeting and the president's knowledge of it. manafort denied that his son don, jr. was meeting with russians at trump tower. according to rudy juliany, that is snag mueller's team made clear. the question is, will that be in the court filings today. we know there were a lot of redactions that led to more questions tha...

Senior white house correspondent pamela brown. pamela, what's the new nugget now? >> well, the big question is what did the president respond to robert mueller prior to this revelation today from michael cohen that he lied to congress on a number of facts as it pertained to the trump tower moscow meeting. i spoke to rudy giuliani, the president's attorney, who said there is no contradiction. here is a quote. let me just find the quote that i have. as far as he knew there was a proposal. he did discuss it with michael cohen and signed a non-binding letter of intent and it never went beyond that...

Else to leave and makes this request, will you please shut off the investigation into me, will you make the fbi stop investigating me? why would you remember that? happens all the time, right? why would you recall? you know, maybe it does happen all the time. i mean, just look at where we are now. look at the height to which we have risen. with nixon, it was a revelation at the end, all the stuff we learned that we had done, all the stuff that prosecutors and investigators collected evidence of in terms of his criminal behavior. with president trump, it's been a mountain that's been built up i...

Learned that he had done, all the stuff that prosecutors and investigators collected evidence of in terms of his criminal behavior. with president trump, it's been a mountain that's been built up in public, stone by stone, from the very beginning, from the very start of his presidency. i mean, president trump has not credibly denied any of this. he asked fbi director james comey to lay off the fbi investigation into michael flynn as it pertained to russia. he fired james comey as the head of the fbi after comey refused to do that and to make exonerating statements about the president. the pres...