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Their musical performance style. people aren't going to buy something if you call it punk. they might buy it if you call it new wave. >> you love that punk rock these days, and what's your thoughts on punk rock? >> it's a new wave. by defining it as punk, you're automatically putting a boundary on what's possible. >> talking head was the ultimate college band. ultimate. they did spiky music who reflected who they were and reflected the fascinating individual that david burn would he mer-- emerge to become. >> i wrote a song about urban guerillas and about their daily lives instead of about the...

Something if you call it punk. they might call it if you call it new wave. >> you love that punk rock these days, and what's your thoughts on punk rock? >> it's a new wave. by defining it as punk, you're automatically putting a boundary around what's possible. and i think fans like talking heads, excellent. >> talking heads was the ultimate college band. and they did a sophisticated spiky music that reflected who they were. and it particularly reflected the fascinating individual that david burn would emerge to become. >> i wrote a song about urban gorillas from the point of their daily lives,...

>> there is an anger and frustration that drove punk rock on and got a lot of people behind it. ♪ >> you're said to be a political group. >> yeah. it's true. >> the clash is the best of the lot. doesn't sound like traditional punk but doesn't sound like anybody else either. ♪ >> punk was a wide umbrella and that wider scene included people who were more complex in their musical performance style. people won't buy something that you call it punk. they might buy it if you call it new wave.

That wider scene include people who were more complex in their musical performance style. people won't buy something that you call it punk. they might buy it if you call it new wave. >> what's your thoughts on punk rock? >> it's a new wave. by defining it as punk you're automatically putting a boundary on what's possible. >> talking head can was the ultimate. they did spiky music who reflected who they were and reflected the fascinating individual that david burn would ultimately become. >> i wrote a song about urban guerillas and about their daily lives instead of about their politics.

You call it punk. they might buy it if you call it new wave. >> what's your thoughts on punk rock? >> it's a new wave. by defining it as punk you're automatically putting a boundary on what's possible. >> talking head can was the ultimate. they did spiky music who reflected who they were and reflected the fascinating individual that david burn would ultimately become. >> i wrote a song about urban guerillas and about their daily lives instead of about their politics. >> this area of new wave music is where stars of the 1980s are going to come from. >> what makes the '70s so special is that the...