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The group spending the money against john boehner the a group that raised and spent $3 million last year. spent nearly all of that on fund-raising and political consultants. last year spent $125,000 on actual campaign expenditures. so these groups, each if they're not going to win elections for tea party conservatives. going to make political consultants very rich. >> you have been in the arena and seen all of the dynamics. what do you think about the angle josh is raising? and money going to primary challengers? >> well, i think it's -- i call it purity for profit. so, there are a lot of grou...

Spent nearly all of that on fund-raising and political consultants. last year spent $125,000 on actual campaign expenditures. so these groups, each if they're not going to win elections for tea party conservatives. going to make political consultants very rich. >> you have been in the arena and seen all of the dynamics. what do you think about the angle josh is raising? and money going to primary challengers? >> well, i think it's -- i call it purity for profit. so, there are a lot of groups that are raising a lot of money. if-up lo if you look at their overhead. spending 80%, 90% on overhead....

>> i don't know if i call it purity. want to avoid that issue. they're going to be defeats on the path to victory. always have been. but what we're looking at right now is something that ted cruz has tapped outside of the beltway and that's hearing from real americans and the impact this has on them. fascinating for the obama administration, trot out a few dozen folks that haven't been insured and give them there, in a sense, sob store when you have hundreds of thousands of americans losing their healthcare. >> to argue these valid points about the flaws in the healthcare law do you think prec...

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