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Trump seeming to want to do that to distract or undermine this russia investigation. i think that's exactly right. russians are certainly happy of what's going on here now, with really attacking these very important american institutions. and you heard fbi agents today basically come out on twitter and say this is damaging, that they put their lives on the line in terms of law and order. it's also just odd to have a republican president, a law and order president, then attack the fbi and the department of justice. >> it puts, you know, the fbi director, christopher wray, who has been on the jo...

Executive from any financial institution has gone to jail, not one for any systemic crimes that wiped out 40% of the world's wealth. matt taibbi joins me. such an important book. it is. i feel like it puts, it draws, a shocking disparity between what happens to corporations and corporate executives and what happens to minorities and people at the bottom of the economic ladder. why still to this day has no one been arrested? >> well they give all kind of excuses. and you know, i spent years and years and years working on this book. i heard every excuse in the book they tell you, prosecutors. pe...

That wiped out 40% of the world's wealth. matt taibbi joins me. such an important book. it is. i feel like it puts, it draws, a shocking disparity between what happens to corporations and corporate executives and what happens to minorities and people at the bottom of the economic ladder. why still to this day has no one been arrested? >> well they give all kind of excuses. and you know, i spent years and years and years working on this book. i heard every excuse in the book they tell you, prosecutors. people in the justice department. regulatory agencies. the cases are hard to bring. juries do...

On you when you're back home? >> well, i think it puts -- brings support for me when i'm back home. i've spent time at the state fair, at the family leadership summit yesterday. i've been all over my district in iowa, which is 39 of the 99 counties. it is a universal message that says hold your ground, keep telling the truth, defend the rule of law, and defend the constitution. so that's my message back to the president. i think that's divisive politics. if we can't restore the rule of law in this, how are we going to enforce immigration law going forward if we accept the senate's gang of eigh...

Negotiation process happens is there a way that they'll come on board. and if i had to bet, i'd say yes, there is. >> do you believe that this will strengthen or weaken the appeal of the brotherhood and political islam? because now they are being seen as victims. a month ago they were seen as the corrupt, you know, incompetent administrators of egypt. is there a danger that they now go back to being seen as these romantic victims? >> i think there is a danger. i think that their strength was always when they were underground and didn't have the burden of having to govern. had they been actuall...