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I think we may be about to see a different side of the justice system when it comes to how the former president is forced to interact with it. >> and, hey if you've got a history of not paying your legal bills, might as well delay. nothing i like better than starting the hour with some brilliant women. when we come back, she was the center stage and congresses last effort to hold donald trump accountable. congresswoman stacey plaskett on whether she thinks this time it will actually happen. and later, after timothy chalamet warns the onslaught of online opinions makes it tough to be alive righ...

Secretary. >> i mean, i just don't, look. i have said this before on the show. you know, the probability, you know, that the odds that independent things happen, right. to get two things to happen independently, right, you know. greater odds, you multiply them. it's like, the odds of just getting out of all of the various traps, whether -- like, staring down the barrel of sentencing on a criminal contempt and is now turning himself into a prosecution in the new york state where donald trump who is facing, like, stolen documents he was in possession of and is also got this january 6th. like, bo...

Where that went, who knows about it? is it there's? did they share it? did they not share it? did we acquire it through [inaudible] there are so many questions here. and let's think about the saudis. jared kushner, very close to the saudis. the trump administration. there were a lot of times there that happened -- and that i was there for internally and saw and i covered, -- elements of middle east politics a time because there were -- counterterrorism issues and i certainly know people out cover that topic. when i think about this i think, what was the point of this? why? why would you take t...

This was not just, i was packing fast. this is hundreds of documents. some of the most closely held secrets. he was deceptive about it and he lied about it. he refused a subpoena about it. refused a subpoena about it why? why, why, why? and you don't necessarily have any insight into this. but it does seem like we have to get to the motive at some point. >> right, and it is hard to know. are these just souvenirs to say, oh, show and tell? that is bad enough. is he sitting at dinner talking about it? is she showing them off. just thinking about that scenario, right, because that is who donald t...