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D.r.e.a.m.ers' bill once the cameras left the room? >> yeah, and i don't know if i can define one rather than the other. i can't remember what was what, but certainly after the cameras left kevin mccarthy and a few others said, all right, let's really set these parameters. what are the four items that need to be there? and we really narrowed it down to that. now some of these -- some of the four items could be expanded certainly within them, but just setting those parameters helps a great deal. >> i want to get to the substance of the bill in a second, but -- >> right. >> our white house corre...

And facebook is subjective. shouldn't they let it play out? >> david, other than pedophilia, that kind of content or overt calls for violence, they really should just let it roll. people can start to sort this thing out on their own, and when you get something false out there, there are plenty of people out there ready to pounce on it and facebook is a legal private company that can legally do whatever they want, but they have such influence on what sites succeed and don't succeed. a site gets rude like breitbart, they can do harm to them. let it roll. david: john, i don't have a lot of confid...

Of all those people, not all of them. we're not even trying. this is the thing. he made the point. we have a problem with poisoning we check the tuna before it goes in the can. we have a problem with bridges we check them. if we sense a problem, we check them. he makes the point that we do, as a society, try to protect ourselves from dangers. in this case, it's the only case where we say let it be. this is the way we like it. the nra is saying this is as good as it gets. let the kids have the guns. 20 years old wants to shoot up everybody at a campus, innocence all around, classroom by classro...

It would be something in a capsule. it would be like rez ver it roll or some polyphenyl or some tea maybe. it was none of that. >> so what is it then? what is the lifestyle cocktail that keeps the reaper at bay? and is there any way to import it to america?

>> i have trouble believing two guys in cincinnati dreamed this scheme up. i just don't think that's true. i personally believe i cannot conceive of the situation which it didn't come from higher up. >> here is my theory on this. it seems like, you've got darrell issa losing credibility. we've seen stories to that effect. now you've got dick cheney and other conservatives trying to keep this thing alive, right? they need this scandal, if you will, to be alive. and it strikes me that real reason is because this is part of the larger plan when it comes to the affordable -- you know i'm a conspir...