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Dragnetting all this information. >> bill: where are you getting that from though. >> part of the problem this is all secret so we cannot -- karl probably can't tell us if he knows. >> bill: we don't know the whistleblower in hong kong says that's happening and rove says it isn't happening. we don't know. >> at least the phone stuff is not very targeted and is domestic. i have an issue with that a little bit beyond what you do. >> bill: no, no. >> hold 00 not just because there is distongues you can do a lot with data now than you could bill political. >> got it rope to protect us and phone th...

Dragnetting all this information. >> bill: where are you getting that from though. >> part of the problem this is all secret so we cannot -- karl probably can't tell us if he knows. >> bill: we don't know the whistleblower in hong kong says that's happening and rove says it isn't happening. we don't know. >> at least the phone stuff is not very targeted and is domestic. i have an issue with that a little bit beyond what you do. >> bill: no, no. >> hold 00 not just because there is distongues you can do a lot with data now than you could bill political. >> got it rope to protect us and phone th...