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Their heel, will we get to a point of a disagreement of what they call a border fence or a border wall or a border barrier. will it come down do semantics in other words for this deal to get made, to reopen the government? >> i think we're past that point. there was a time last year where there was a semantic discussion about if democrats call it border security rather than a wall. trump calls it a barrier instead of wall maybe they could meet in between and come up with something they agree to. everybody agrees there needs to be border security. that's not the part that's controversial. presi...

Will it come down do semantics in other words for this deal to get made, to reopen the government? >> i think we're past that point. there was a time last year where there was a semantic discussion about if democrats call it border security rather than a wall. trump calls it a barrier instead of wall maybe they could meet in between and come up with something they agree to. everybody agrees there needs to be border security. that's not the part that's controversial. president trump has treated to his original point, the wall. he'll call it slats. he wants the physical barrier. he wants wall. w...

Of whom i do not agree with. this is president trump's problem, he said that he was more than happy to own the shutdown. >> julie: the republicans have to somewhat come up with some negotiation. i understand that the wall is a sensitive spot for democrats, so $1.7 billion is not enough for a down payment on one, but if you called it a fence, if you called it slats of steel, is at the wall that has them so against us? because as part of the democrats mission to secure the borders, they want to put measures for tougher border security, and certainly some kind of structure blocking mexico in the ...

To where it's going to be, let alone what it is going to be and even more important what good it would do if it would be built. it is 1,700 miles of border between the united states and mexico. where is he going to put this wall? there is no way congress should give him $5 billion basically as a slush fund to do something. is it slats? is it concrete? he has no idea other than a campaign promise. we wouldn't give the military 1$100 million to build a hanger on some airfield without specific plans and justification for doing it. so let's just start with what do you want here, mr. president? why...