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People? if you don't have a social security system, what are you going to do? >> you're going to be a lot better off than a social security system where everybody is dependant and it goes broke. you will have a whole society broke. that is the whole problem. >> would we be better off getting rid of it? >> not under these circumstances. i have bills in the congress that would make it solvent, that you couldn't spend a penny of it. i would take care of these people who are totally dependant by stopping the money being spent overseas and i would have a transition. in order to do that. >> overseas...

The third piece of it is that there will be -- well, it's not a pay for, it's about coverage. you'll have to look there, but that's the main cut mainly from fraud and abuse. no cuts in benefits. no decrease in benefits. and in this legislation we will make it solvent for nine more years. there's some other pieces to it that will be in there, but the main piece is the medicare fee. it's health for health. in our bill we had a surcharge at the high end. this is the health fee on unearned income. and some other feature there's there as well. but they are the two main ones. >> many times one of th...

Age of 55 and what i propose to make it solvent, it's going bankrupt, for people under the age of 55 give them the same kind of plan i have as a congressman but more support to people with low incomes and high health care costs and not as much support to people who are wealthy. that's what i'm proposing. guarantee it for current seniors because they organized their lives around it. look at what the democrats are doing. >> only for current seniors just to be clear on that? it severely limits the number of people eligible going forward in the future. >> not in the least. not in the least. doesn'...

Time with the baby boomers retiring, the population getting older, more people want the benefits, right? >> reporter: it cannot come -- it couldn't come at a worse time, at least 30 million people qualifying for social security in the next 20 years and fewer workers paying into the system to keep it solvent. in the early days of the program, you know, there were more than 60 workers per beneficiary but by 1960 it was down to five workers for every senior, by the 1980s, 3-1, and we're headed for 2-1. on top of that, people are living longer as well, so social security needs an overhaul, and jon...

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