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People in or near retirement. you have to reform it for the younger generation in order to make it stick for current generation. president obama is, that is a debate we want to have and that is a debate we're going going to win. gregg: ron johnson is a member of the senate budget committee. it is a pleasure to have you this morning. thank you for being here. >> gregg, good morning, how are you doing? gregg: i'm fine. medicare is often described by the metaphor, third rail of politics and the politician ho dares touch it suffers. i'm wondering this time around because paul ryan intimate knowled...

Portion. >> because it was so boring and it was just kept going on and on and on. >> alisyn: but now what do you think? >> now, i think it's good that they kept replaying it because it made it stick in your head what you need to do and stuff. >> alisyn: so, just be to be clear, madison, you remembered from na video and able to instruct your mother, what did you tell her in terms of reviving your grandpa? >> well, she kind of got the gist of what to do, she didn't really know, so i told her to stop and cass to hold his head up and hold his nose and blow in and i told her to stop so i could do t...

And somehow, they think you don't remember. but you remember, and we don't need more top down economists. what we need is somebody who is going to fight every single day to grow the middle class because that's hout our economy grows, from the middle out, from the bottom up. >> good aumpt, does it stick, does it work? should democrats be on this? >> it's a good argument. finally, by crystalizing it and saying the middle class to build from the middle out from the bottom up, not from the top down, that's language that people can understand. this president has had some trouble in framing the argu...

Where we created 23 million new jobs. >> here's more from president obama today. >> so we tried what they're selling. and it didn't work. and somehow, they think you don't remember. but you remember, and we don't need more top down economists. what we need is somebody who is going to fight every single day to grow the middle class because that's hout our economy grows, from the middle out, from the bottom up. >> good aumpt, does it stick, does it work? should democrats be on this? >> it's a good argument. finally, by crystalizing it and saying the middle class to build from the middle out from...

Whether they can enforce that because there will be some candidates in red states or swing places that are going to be reluctant to take the dare. i agree with you, if the democrats don't go firmly on this and back up the president's strategy, it will have no use whatsoever. >> they have to go to the firewall on this issue. they served it up. >> if they want to make it work. >> they have to do it rhetorically to make it stick. >> thank you so much. remember to answer tonight's question. share your thoughts on twitter at ed show and on facebook. >> mitt romney isn't giving good swbs on why he h...