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Begins a big dive. >> what i tend to do when i'm watching, i let the people do the dials. then i ask them during the commercial break, what happened? in this case i ran over and i said why did it tank there? their answer, conservatives have been attacked by liberals for their life, for having no heart. it is a typical refrain you hear again and again. when a conservative says, to another conservative, you have no heart, that's unforgiveable. the entire room looked at this and said, i don't want this. >> sean: interesting. one of the things i'm going to ask you about is can governor perry learn...

Begins a big dive. >> what i tend to do when i'm watching, i let the people do the dials. then i ask them during the commercial break, what happened? in this case i ran over and i said why did it tank there? their aner, conservatives have been attacked by liberals for their life, for having no heart. it is a typical refrain you hear again and again. when a conservative says, to another conservative, you have no heart, that's unforgiveable. the entire room looked at this and said, i don't want this. >> sean: interesting. one of the things i'm going to ask you about is can governor perry learn f...