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Which i believe teachers justly deserve tenure. but it's a ridiculously short period of time. we don't finish providing the professional development to support new teacher rz before you have to make the decision to keep them. the judge on this phase of the ruling is that it's absurd to have that period of time. you need a longer period of time to take into account all of the great work that teachers do to make that decision. >> how long she they have to be a teacher before they qualify to be tenured? >> i think that we would find it very reasonable and teachers would, anywhere between three an...

It takes a military jaunt to remove bad teachers in the classroom, trust me, i know. and if we get the teachers removed, they have the opportunity to come back. tenure cost exist, it may not be called tenure, but it's certainly exactly tenure. >> and karen, i think that parents, what some parents object to is that you can call it contract, you can call it tenure, but basically it's protecting some incompetent teachers. do you think that's a problem? >> i do not think that that is what we're really talking about. the whole thing is that teachers have contracts. everyone should adhere to a contr...