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That the vice president said the other day and just ask you if you agree with it. "there's no possibility to restore 8 million jobs lost in the great recession." so is the administration admitting that we will never get back the number of jobs we lost? >> look, i think -- i'm sure he was talking about within a short timeframe. as i said, the hole that was dug was big. and understand, this is a -- this recession was a tragedy for families across this country. there are -- we have -- >> he was talking about -- >> we have five people unemployed for every job vacancy. and obviously, it's going to ...

Can't traverse in order to get their work done. we're working on this every single day. this is the single greatest challenge we face and we'll keep at it day after day after day. >> one last question because we've got to run here. guantanamo bay prison still not closed. why not? >> well, obviously there's tremendous resistance to that in congress. also, we confronted -- >> so you have no place to put them. >> that's part of the problem, but the other part of the problem is when we got there, what we found was there was absolutely no case history on anybody there, so we had to kind of reconstr...

Small businesses and entrepreneurs with a good idea don't have barrier that say they can't traverse in order to get their work done. we're working on this every single day. this is the single greatest challenge we face and we'll keep at it day after day after day. >> one last question because we've got to run here. guantanamo bay prison still not closed. why not? >> well, obviously there's tremendous resistance to that in congress. also we confronted -- >> so you have no place to put them. >> that's part of the problem, but the other part of the problem is when we got there, what we found was ...