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That's probably where he got that final radicalization to push him to commit acts of violence and where he may have received training on what we ultima ultimately saw last monday. >> as i get michael leiter and michael chertoff into this, he talked about a change that he noticed in tamerlan once he returned from that travel. let me play a portion of that. >> i saw what happened the last time i spoke with tamerlan in 2009, and i was shocked when i heard his words, his phrases. every other word he starts sticking in words of devotion. it wasn't devotion. it was something, as it's being called, r...