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>>. >> we have lou dobbs here. >> it's good news for president obam a. 7.8%, getting into the 7s is very important for him. that's very good news for him. unfortunately tdoesn't describe the state of unemployment. and real pain in the country. 23 million americans remain unemployed or they have given up hope of being employed. >> viheard people who don't like barack obama today, say the numbers are cooked, fixed. doesn't what's his name, the former ceo of g.e. -- >> jack welch! he said, the guys from chicago can't debate so they are cooking the books. >> do you take that seriously? >> no. but ...

So what the blank? could possibly go wrong? >> greta: dr. bellar joins us. good evening. doctor. >> hello, gret a. how are you? >> greta: good. i guess it's safe to assume you don't like obamacare, right? >> i do not think it is a wise idea at all. it's a government takeover of our health care. >> greta: besides the issue of the government health care takeover, which is for many people, you know, it's a political issue. i am curious, the list of things that you have outlined tdoesn't seem particularly wise. what stands out most to me is where you say it covers 10 million more people without ad...

Like to know a lot of your donors would like to know how do you turn this thing around? you've got a little more than six weeks, what do you do? >> well tdoesn't need a turn around. we've got a campaign which is tied with an incumbent president of the united states. i've got a very effective campaign doing a very good job, but not everything i say is elegant and i want to make it very clear, i want to help 100% of the people. >> dave: he followed up by saying, you know, you didn't totally answer that question, but to romney's point. do you need a complete change of direction or turn around or ...

A crimp, very careful on lending. the mortgages, great if you can get the low rates. a lot of parts of the country, very uncertain. >> greta: i see jason nodding his head. it seems like there should be cheap money to expand businesses? >> rate's only good if you can get access -- >> greta: why can't you get it? >> banks are so much more risk averse because the liabilities are greater and greater. unless you are an investor with great credit and you are a medium or small-sized business, you depend on the capital. if you can't borrow issue you can't grow. we're a capital intensive business, the ...

>> other ethnic groups around their own ethnic groups speak differently-- al gore goes into a preacher mode and use this is divisive language. >> the more significant view is that mitt romney came to the naacp and never mentioned voter enfranchisement, which is the number-1 issue for the naacp. >> sean: that goes to the heart of joe biden's comments, saying they are trying to make voting harder. why? because they want an i.d.? >> come on, you are supposed to show an i.d., why is that a burden? >> because it has a disproportionate negative impact on black it's. >> no tdoesn't. >> sean: do you...