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Maybe jonathan's right and there's some other piece of evidence they're trying to protect. if there was a strategy point that came out of that and i'm not con advised there w-- convi there was one at 9:00 at night on television. >> to point out there are other people on television at the same time as rudy giuliani. they were completely coherent. so i don't know why -- like we're half joking but we're half serious. >> maybe he had a heavy meal and was kind of -- >> no, we're talking whether or not he was -- >> it slows him downs are slurs yours words. >> no. >> i know if i have, mika, a big mea...

And i rent a car to use in the bank robbery, i get a gun, i drive to the bank but i see the guards outside and i abandon my plans, guess what? i'm guilty of attempted bank robbery. again, the only thing that roger stone adds to the dialogue is really carbon dioxide. beyond that, there is really no value to anything he says. we have to wait and see what bob mueller has. >> ben, you told the "washington post," quote, that unless mueller has tape recordings of phone calls, what would would prove? so if mueller wants to prove these discussions indeed took place, how does he go about doing that if ...

>> reporter: there w >> there was a building here, i promise. >> reporter: as michael shows me what used to be his restaurant, it's obvious the pain is still fresh. >> an open kitchen where everybody could see what was going on. >> reporter: it's gone. hal summers was general manager. he's lost his job and his home. both men could have wallowed in self-pity and left town. instead they decided to help the only way they could. they cooked. in a church parking lot amidst of roar of generators and grill, they began feeding first responds are and residents three times a day, seven days a week, for ...

It's twitter or facebook or other outlets like this, there w is no other place. if you can't talk on twitter, or facebook or what have you, what are you supposed to do? >> tucker: once they shut you down, people they disagree with, the debate doesn't happen. >> that seems to be the point. >> tucker: i ask this question everyday. what you think conservatives in the congress don't see thisha as the mortal threat to debate and speech that it is? >> i think some are starting to see it, but maybe not enough yet. chairman bob goodlatte had a hearing on this over the summer specifically addressed thi...

There w there was jub lance. >> all in good health at this time. >> now there's we're told an effort to extract them soon. let's take the live picture. we just saw live crews hanging signs there. if you can read them, it says explosiv explosives. so that may give us some clue about how and what will be employed to try to get these boys out. again, we don't know at this point than the thai navy official saying that the extraction may happen soon. we are seeing these signs. >> there's been a lot of activity this morning as well. on top of the monsoons doming, they're also facing limiting oxygen ...