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Certain direction. talk to me about what needs to get done and what impresses you about what is being done at this point? >> you can't help but be impressed with what is going on. this is moving at lightning speed the way most diplomatic things move. i thought june 12 was aspirational and not necessarily doable. but the important thing is the people are committed to it. the other important thing is even though we have had speed bumps and ups and downs, no one has backed away from the foundation that the parties laid out at the beginning, the objectives. >> harris: it's interesting because you ...

It, i think i'm optimistic that that kind of pressure and energy can continue. >> when you say that this was the first of the hiccups, matt -- >> yeah. >> what do you expect the rest to look like, on, off, on, off? >> some of that, but say they have a photo opportunity. that's not a small thing. that's a big thing. getting the two of them together. >> yeah. >> we'll see a lot of weeks and months to follow and years. a photo, but nothing done yet, it's off, it's on. this is going to be complicated, even in the most calm kind of well-run process driven administration, this would be like that. in...

With. because the day after he wrote the letter, he began discussing putting this back on perhaps for june 12th. and as you heard, got quite angry when we quoted an aide that would have given a briefing to 250 people that suggested that june 12th was just about impossible. so it does look like it's on. they have done two interesting things, alisyn. they sent sung kim, who dealt with the six-party talks with north korea during the bush administration, he is leading the team up into north korea about the spwaps of all of this. and hayden is deputy chief of staff who also worked for president bus...

>> scanvinski hymes is no stranger to "lockup." our producers first met him seven years ago inside pelican bay, california's toughest maximum security prison. >> i don't care if you the peace officer, if you are the governor, if you are the president, if you do something to me, it's on. >> he's bucking right now, he's struggling. >> hymes is a career inmate with 19 of his 37 years spent behind bars. >> turn around. turn around. >> nope. you all use that force on me. >> officers in several california prisons have gotten plenty of opportunities to document his bad behavior on videotape. while mo...

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