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And i think, frankly, the president has to decide, is he going to keep jeff sessions or not? if he is, he's got to support him, say good things about him. if not, as one of the earlier persons on your show, let him go, quietly, but get on with it. rip off the band-aid. >> what we're hearing from republican and democratic senators alike, lisa murkowski will -- will that get her on board. >> to the john mccain argument about not getting anything done, for the past few years, as a republican, i would say, republicans have been the reason nothing's gotten done. i don't think the ambassador would d...

Can't serve me well and i'm going to act accordingly and take the consequences. to me, weakness is when you play around the edges and you don't use the power you have. >> a lot of speculation, kate, that perhaps the president will fire jeff sessions and try to install a replacement during the recess using his power to make a recess appointment. pushback on that from republicans as well, telling the president not to go that route. clearly, if he did fire jeff sessions, a lot of concerns from his own party, something that he may not want at this point as he is trying to get his party in line beh...

Have to fire him that jeff session will resign on his own volition. look, this may be unpopular, but i hope jeff sessions has strength and fortitude and does not resign, because we know this president will fire jeff sessions, we know he is incensed about his unavoidable ziegs i decision to recuse himself. i think the american people need to see the president fire the attorney general for the proper actions he has taken by recusing himself, that would be a powerful signal, much more powerful than the attorney general resigning in submission. >> is that the president's goal to get jeff sessions ...

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