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Will to not only promote its view directly but to fracture countries' societies and weakening political systems, spreading animosity between social groups and political actions keeps those nations from posing a coherent challenge to russia and its oligarchic elite. that's an interesting thesis, that this is work to break up others, weaken others so that by reference, russia remains strong. >> and jack's right, there are decades of soviet and then russian active measures. when the kgb was doing this, a lot of times they really took aim at divisions in american society, how to make america seem ...

To embarrass america across the world. we saw with the social media campaign, facebook ads, groups, phony tweets and russian bots, a lot of what they did was not directly aimed at the election. some of it was, but a lot of the was simply fueling divisions that already exist in our society. it's part of their asymmetrical warfare strategy against us. >> jack, in the movie you show election machines and things like that. but people come on our air and say, prove to me that one vote was changed. your argument is bigger than that, it's not the ballot box, it's the minds that were changed because o...

View directly but to fracture countries' societies and weakening political systems, spreading animosity between social groups and political actions keeps those nations from posing a coherent challenge to russia and its oligarchic elite. that's an interesting thesis, that this is work to break up others, weaken others so that by reference, russia remains strong. >> and jack's right, there are decades of soviet and then russian active measures. when the kgb was doing this, a lot of times they really took aim at divisions in american society, how to make america seem more racist during the civil ...

We saw with the social media campaign, facebook ads, groups, phony tweets and russian bots, a lot of what they did was not directly aimed at the election. some of it was, but a lot of the was simply fueling divisions that already exist in our society. it's part of their asymmetrical warfare strategy against us. >> jack, in the movie you show election machines and things like that. but people come on our air and say, prove to me that one vote was changed. your argument is bigger than that, it's not the ballot box, it's the minds that were changed because of influence by russians. >> it's a mult...

Western democracy. it is called "active measures". >> i have a particular type of mark. they go after someone with business resources, shady morals and political connections or aspirations. i've just described donald trump. >> the crown jewel for any intelligence agency is to recruit an asset inside your adversary intelligence agency. >> they seem to have premonitions of things that would happen that in fact did happen. >> and the question is who helps guide the decisions the russians were making. >> trump tower was a money laundering paradise. >> anybody who was anybody in russian organized c...