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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:32:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:32:00

Which is call the cops and face the music? >> yes, at that point i was just solving a problem. >> reporter: so the tears and regret that i'm seeing now, you weren't feeling that then? >> no. never cried. >> reporter: because at the time ellen says she was on autopilot and needed to dispose of a body, and how did she do that? in the want ads she found a guy with a backhoe who came out to the house and dug a hole. did you tell the guy why you were doing this? >> no, he didn't ask. >> reporter: ellen and her son michael wrapped snyder's body in a tarp and put plastic bags on his hands. and then i...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:41:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:41:00

Information six, seven years later. we don't have the actual crime scene. at that time they would have seen blood strains from where he first got shot to where his body was laying to where the bullet projectiles stopped. >> reporter: ellen claimed michael woke her up yelling and fought in the family room where mike slept. >> i'm in the middle of the family room and he's about as far as you and i facing each other. >> reporter: and what happened? >> he came steps forward and i started shooting. >> reporter: using some creative detective work, wilson had an idea. he remember something michael, e...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:09:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:09:00

Of the snyders' former home. how did patrick know this? his best friend michael had told him, and on more than one occasion. >> he even said the next day he told him about it. and then over the years, if they were together drinking or something, that he would break down and tell him again the story. >> reporter: do you believe him? >> yes. >> reporter: so this is one more person pointing you to the backyard? >> yes. >> reporter: but you already looked there? >> this seemed very believable this information, and it really corroborated what we suspected. >> reporter: patrick agreed to cooperate w...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:47:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:47:00

Because of that, that it occurred? is that what you're implying? >> reporter: i'm not implying it, i'm saying you made money out of the death of your husband. >> i did not make substantial amount of money out of the death of my husband, no. >> reporter: it was now the job of prosecutor david wehmeyer to put together a case for a jury to hear. >> covering up the crime would be her best evidence in terms of trying to convince the jury that her intent at the time of the killing was something along the lines of a premeditated murder. >> reporter: but the prosecution found itself in a rather unusua...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:40:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:20:40:00

Their abusers, they call the police and they're sitting there with the gun when the police drive up. >> okay. >> reporter: they don't try to evade responsibility. they admit what they did and they say, i didn't have any choice. pretty much as you're saying to me now. but they don't bury the body. and tell a series of pretty good lies over a long period of time. that's pretty unusual. >> okay. >> reporter: which suggests to some people that there's more to this story than you're telling. >> they didn't live through what we lived through. they weren't there that night. >> reporter: with ellen sn...