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Charged with coordinating with a russian national who funneled money to them they then put towards state political campaigns. so there's a lot swirling here, jim and poppy, especially aside from the indictment itself. now questions how they really factor into the ukraine impeachment inquiry here is how rudy giuliani fits ipas well. guys? >> when folks buy one way tickets out of the country -- >> they're generally not coming back. >> they're generally not coming back. let's discuss now. jack, you've been around washington for a long time. the details of this case are so brazen as to make your j...

From maggie haberman. he told her that he never spoke to roger stone about wikileaks. what's your take on this? >> so not only does he leave no wiggle room here, he said he didn't direct anyone to get in touch with roger stone about wikileaks. remember there's a part in the roger stone indictment that says that someone in the campaign directed a senior person, a senior campaign official to talk to roger stone about wikileaks. he's saying basically and he's really leaving himself no wiggle room here, that he wasn't that person. he wasn't the person that directed anyone to talk to roger stone ab...

Are safe in their jobs. and the president, he says, they were mischaracterized, misquoted. don't forget, this is president who said this. >> and just remember what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. >> so the question is who are you going to believe? seriously, who do you believe? do you believe the president, or do you believe your own ears? our cnn exclusive, new information showing donald trump, jr.'s phone calls ahead of the 2016 trump tower meeting were not with his father. that as the president sits down for an oval office interview with "the new york times." ...

Like one of the mysteries may be coming to an end. >> one singular question settled in the russia probe. can't count them. thanks. joining me now is cnn legal analyst jack quin who served under president bill clinton. thanks for coming in. on this phone calls have long been a source of speculation. who were these calls to? and now we know that senate investigators have information that is not to president trump or with president trump. reports are it is with the business associates. there are answer tlz for you. what does it tell you? >> not a great deal. it is certainly good news for don tr...

Hey, you know what, this wasn't with his father as we may have thought or suspected. and obviously the bigger point in all of this is they're trying to find out if donald trump had any advance notice of this meeting with the russians, which turned into all about, you know, dirt on hillary clinton. first it was going to be about adoption, then it was hillary clinton dirt. so it turned into a meeting that they should not have had. obviously we know all of the activity that went on after that meeting. so members of congress were trying to use this to perhaps see if he did in fact give his father ...