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On the night of the fifth? >> mr. meadows had a conversation with me where he wanted me to work with secret service on a movement from the white house to the hotel. so he could attend the meeting. or meetings with mr. giuliani and his associates. in the war room. >> and what was your view as to whether or not me should go to the hotel that night? >> i had made it clear to him that i didn't believe it was a smart idea for him to go to the hotel that night. throughout the afternoon, he mentioned a few more times going up to the hotel that evening. and then eventually dropped the subject the nigh...

The white house at the time insisted that he was on a public white house christmas tour and didn't have a meeting with donald trump nor did the white house invite him. is that true? or was it like so much we were told by the trump white house in december 2020 a complete and utter lie? there are others. with direct ties to these groups. such roger stone. >> is it your understanding mr. meadows called mr. stone on the fifth? >> i'm under the impression meadows did complete both a call to stone and general flynn. the evening of the fifth. >> now, committee vice chair liz cheney noted that cassidy...