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Mentally ill are not only getting treatment for their mental illness but let's make sure that they don't have access to guns. let's make sure that criminals don't have access to guns. american for responsible solutions are focused on this every d to make sure we fix this problem and address gun violence in the country. >> chris: i want to pick up on that point. after newtown there was a lot of talk about making it easier for authorities, a school or a family to commit a jared loffner, an adam lanza before they got access to guns and acted out in the horrible way but that seems to have been for...

Now these people are not -- >> chris: worked enough that 1.7 million people were denied. i completely agree with you. as captain kelly pointed out, jared loffner was able to pass the test so there are holes in it. because it is not perfect doesn't mean that it doesn't work. >> the hole in it is the fact that we have been fighting for 20 years to get the records computerized and i know what goes on behind the scenes in this town, they won't do it. the mental health lobby won't do it and hppa won't do it. >> chris: you are for a universal background check. >> universal. that is what president ob...

And get an answeeap five minutes and 36 seconds. what it shows you is that it is not the burden that the ncontr. leadership says what a background check is. a simple common sens sense thio to make sure that criminals and mentally ill can't have ahicess to firearms. >> chris: leof ths talk about t because in gabby's case the shooter had been suspended from college because he was deemed to be a threat to himself and others. he went to a gun store and he thinkt a gun. randssed a background check. and yet he was able then, of course, to go out and shoot ga or y and 18 other people. and the n.r.a. ...