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Thing. both would help his case in court. they are the easy thing to do if this is a president who wants to put immigration policy above himself. and joining me now for a special interview of skype is washington state governor jay insly that brought this case. what did this ruling mean to you? >> well, it meant that our system of checks and balances fundamentally is intact and that the constitution and evidence is what counts in the courtroom rather than the number of tweet that is you send out over the internet and what this was about. look. you have to have evidence coming into court. the pr...

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President, not sitting well with the house dems. dana bash, thank you. standing closely to you, we have congressman insly. we're going to mike him up. i want to bring in jessica yellin. you've been talking to your white house sources. what do they have to say about these defiant house democrats? >> well, first, i point you to what robert gibbs said publicly, which is that the tax plan will ultimately pass. and his argument, the white house argument, is that democrats will have to get on board for the reason you pointed out, because they face blame for letting taxes go up in the new year if the...

Stand by here. he's not there yet. jessica, before i bring him in then, there you surprised at all with regard to the house dems? some of this defiance, and i guess is it more, perhaps, political posturing or do they want concrete changes to get this thing passed? >> they definitely want concrete changes. and, you know, but the big question a lot of folks are asking right now a lot of other democrats is are we seeing what's to come in the new congress? will nancy pelosi as the new minority leader sort of take on the position of the no, party of no, where they're not going to just resist republ...