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Traditional act in "the tonight show," and i think they think it's time to alter "the tonight show." because of an audience that follows things online much more than tv now. you don't see jay on youtube like jimmy fallon. >> jimmy kimmel does innovative stuff. >> jimmy fallon does his #game and everybody is supposed to check in with what they think is funny. and he uses the internet. >> jimmy fallon has a laptop on his desk. >> so the bottom line, "the tonight show" is moving to new york, jimmy fallon is going to take it over, it's just a question of when. >> that would be my full take, questi...

The key, do well in the middle of the country. and jay has honed that really well. >> so what is behind this? is it fear of losing jimmy fallon? is it fear of jimmy kimmel? >> i think it's -- the knowledge that the business is moving on. and jay has been, you know, a traditional act "the tonight show," and think it's time to alter "the tonight show." because of an audience that follows things online much more than tv now. you don't see jay on youtube like jimmy fallon. >> jimmy kimmel does innovative stuff. >> jimmy fallon does his #game and everyone's supposed to check in with what they think...

Bill: there is a big showdown happening over obamacare. hobby lobby facing fines of up to the $1.3 million every day for its refusal to provide birth control coverage to its employees under the new health care law mandate. hobby lobby, by the way is a family-owned business. it is one of america's largest arts and crafts retailers showing no signs of backing down. jay sekulow worked on these cases. american center of law and justice. welcome back, jay on "america's newsroom". >> hey, bill. bill: you worked on other cases not directly with hobby lobby. >> right. bill: i have read you obtained th...